November 7th, 2004


Problems with electronic voting?

Ok, let me start by saying this: I think there likely was some voting fraud out there - there are too many ways to do it, and I doubt if there's every been an election where someone didn't commit some fraud somewhere. Right? It's human nature, and with tens of millions of votes, the likelihood of every one of them being a "true" vote is just statistically unlikely. Even if there wasn't any fraud, there's next to no chance of some votes being wrong due to human nature. Again, this is something true of every election. And honestly, I'm inclined to say that I have trouble believing a lot of the reports of fraud out there, they smack a bit of paranoia.

Now, having said that, I think that the Diebold system sounds so flawed that it's nearly impossible not for something to have been done to them on at least a few occasions, and the rest of the electronic voting systems seem pretty bad as well. Since the CEO of Diebold was quoted as having said that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." it's really hard to say that he's "clean". That's not the kind of statement any voting machine executive should be making, even in jest, let alone seriously. And there are a lotta lotta articles on voting fraud out there - too many to completely ignore. (Again, this doesn't mean they're correct, but the situation needs to be more fully investigated.)

A few articles on CNN:

The original voting fraud site:

An article in the NYTimes, which refers to one case where there was a verified "glitch" accounting for over 3000 extra Bush votes in an 800-person precinct (the glitch has since been fixed, but were there others?):

Another NYTimes article:

Verified Voting, which has several articles and incidents:

Jihad Unspun on it:

jwz posted on it, and linked to a few articles here:

And finally, an article that was emailed to me:

Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked

by Thom Hartmann
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