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Thanks, Dick! FactCheck.org

So while I haven't seen the debate yet, apparently Dick Cheney recommended that viewers go look at FactCheck.com:

"Well, the reason they keep mentioning Halliburton is because they're trying to throw up a smokescreen. They know the charges are false.They know that if you go, for example, to FactCheck.com (sic), an independent Web site sponsored by the University of Pennsylvania, you can get the specific details with respect to Halliburton."

There are two ironies about this: first of all, factcheck.com is actually an anti-Bush site run by George Soros, and secondly, factcheck.org actually does appear to be independent, and when they analyzed the Cheney/Edwards debate, Cheney turns out to have lied/misled more than Edwards. So, either way, it's not a great thing for him to be pointing out - but it's a useful site, actually, reminds me of spinsanity except it seems to update more often. How sad is it when the site the Republicans point to as a defense actually ends up pwning them? Says something about the administration, though.

Also, despite what Republicans have said about the winners of either of the last two debates, so far, according to "exit polling" (not literally, but you get the idea) and the various statewide polls, both debates seem to be resulting in a Democratic bounce (as they ought to). I was disappointed to hear that Cheney didn't eat any babies on-air, but it still seems that the overall impression from people who watched it is that Edwards beat him. (In all fairness: Edwards had the advantage of lower expectations, I think, as not many people took him seriously. But hey, whatever the reason, people's opinions about both Kerry and Edwards are higher now than they were a month ago, and that's a good thing. They're starting to make a personal impression on voters, and it's apparently a positive one.)

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